Discussion:
R.I.P. Jim Morrison - Rare videos and photos
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Brett
2005-07-03 16:31:48 UTC
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In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...

Jim's first movie...

http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv


Rare photo of Jim and Pam...

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Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...

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Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...

http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html

Peace Out,

Brett
Black Star
2005-07-03 17:13:30 UTC
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Brett,

thx for the gread video and picture of Jim with the beer. Real rare
stuff for me. Where did you get the picture from? I am collecting Doors
Stuff for years now, that picture was completely new to me.

As far as the grave appearance is concerned.......mmmh....nice collage.
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
Peace Out,
Brett
NCWoman127
2005-07-03 17:31:13 UTC
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FYI, that is not Pam with Jim and M. McClure at the Cow Palace. That is
Anne Moore, a 'journalist' and self-proclaimed lover of Jim's.

The photo of Pam and Jim was taken on 6/28/1971 by Alain Ronay.
M***@hotmail.com
2005-07-03 17:57:00 UTC
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Post by NCWoman127
FYI, that is not Pam with Jim and M. McClure at the Cow Palace. That is
Anne Moore, a 'journalist' and self-proclaimed lover of Jim's.
The photo of Pam and Jim was taken on 6/28/1971 by Alain Ronay.
Are you starting an argument? Who is M. McClure? Pam Courson was
Jim's only girlfriend and that woman looks like her only with glasses
on.

I will not argue with you so it would be pointless to argue with me.
Mr. Brett was kind enough to share his photos with us. We must be
apprecative.

That's all I have to say.

Emily P.
Patricia
2005-07-07 19:34:44 UTC
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Post by M***@hotmail.com
Post by NCWoman127
FYI, that is not Pam with Jim and M. McClure at the Cow Palace. That is
Anne Moore, a 'journalist' and self-proclaimed lover of Jim's.
The photo of Pam and Jim was taken on 6/28/1971 by Alain Ronay.
Are you starting an argument? Who is M. McClure? Pam Courson was
Jim's only girlfriend and that woman looks like her only with glasses
on.
I will not argue with you so it would be pointless to argue with me.
Mr. Brett was kind enough to share his photos with us. We must be
apprecative.
That's all I have to say.
Emily P.
Michael McClure is a poet. The woman in the photo is Anne Moore, who
was Jim's friend. As for Meisner, there are too many pathetic frauds
around to be grateful for yet another one.
Brett
2005-07-03 19:09:55 UTC
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Not to sound like a pompous know it all... But, that is Pam in that
photo with Jim at Cow Palace.

As for the 6/28 Ronay photo - you're probably correct.

Anyways... rest in peace Jimbo!

Brett
Brett
2005-07-03 19:16:24 UTC
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That photo of Jim lugging around his giant beers with Pam and McClure
was from The Cow Palace.

As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy. I suggest you
tune in on Tuesday night - details:
http://www.biographychannel.com/global/listings/series_showcase.jsp?EGrpType=Series&Id=15172888&NetwCode=BIO

Brett
Tattoo Vampire
2005-07-03 19:42:13 UTC
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Post by Brett
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy.
We, hell. Your flaccid ass won't be on the program, Rockandrolldoughboy.
--
[tv]

The pain in Spain falls mainly with the cane!
Brett
2005-07-03 19:55:03 UTC
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Post by Brett
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy.
We, hell. Your flaccid ass won't be on the program,
Rockandrolldoughboy.

--- Want to bet me one million dollars that I will be on the Biography
channel as part of Tuesday's Jim Morrison show?

Before you answer, you might want to examine this page:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407379/guests

I guess you'll get back to us.

Brett

P.S. I hope your favorite movie is "Cobra" because you've just been
"Sylverster St-OWNED" in front of thousands of people!
AnnieM
2005-07-03 23:14:23 UTC
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Post by Tattoo Vampire
Post by Brett
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy.
We, hell. Your flaccid ass won't be on the program,
Rockandrolldoughboy.
--- Want to bet me one million dollars that I will be on the Biography
channel as part of Tuesday's Jim Morrison show?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407379/guests
I guess you'll get back to us.
Brett
P.S. I hope your favorite movie is "Cobra" because you've just been
"Sylverster St-OWNED" in front of thousands of people!
____________

Hi, Brett:

I checked out both the links you provided, and am looking forward to
gazing on a city under television skies. Questions: Is "Dead Famous"
the same "Dead Famous" that was shown on British television earlier
this year? Is this "Dead Famous" chapter a "re-enactment" of a real
seance (I see where two of the characters "play" roles, one a psychic)?
Being quite familiar with The Biography Channel, I was unaware it
carried syndicated fiction. Regardless, I'm planning on tuning in.

Thank you.

AM
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 00:05:01 UTC
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Post by AnnieM
I checked out both the links you provided,
Thank you.
AM
That makes five, Cinth, five aliases and counting. Very childish.
--
Tom
Hyacinth
2005-07-07 00:51:00 UTC
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??? Only one, only one... you're dead wrong.
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 18:07:32 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.com
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Subject: Hyacinth to AnnieM To Four Other Nyms ---Re: R.I.P. Jim Morrison
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:51:00 -0400
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??? Only one, only one... you're dead wrong.
Supernews will allow you to quote so why is it that you didn't? If you
had then my original message ---->That makes five, Cinth, five aliases and
counting. Very childish.----> would have come through and your ACT OF
LIES would have been further revealed.

Grow up, Cinth, really, why have you gone to such lengths to FRAUD your
friends here?
--
Tom
Tattoo Vampire
2005-07-04 03:21:48 UTC
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Post by Brett
I guess you'll get back to us.
I'm impressed. This makes one actual true story out of the thousands of tall
tales you've told in the past. Who did you blow to get on there? Or was
crying and pleading enough?
--
[tv]

Chekov: "And if we cannot peice together what happened? What then, sir?"
Spock: "In that case, Mister Chekov, it resides in the purview of the
diplomats."
-- "STVI:TUC", Stardate 9523.8
AnnieM
2005-07-03 19:53:18 UTC
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Post by Brett
That photo of Jim lugging around his giant beers with Pam and McClure
was from The Cow Palace.
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy. I suggest you
http://www.biographychannel.com/global/listings/series_showcase.jsp?EGrpType=Series&Id=15172888&NetwCode=BIO
Brett
Thank you, Brett, for posting the Biography channel link. I'll
definitely be tuning in.

I'm very sure the picture taken at the Cow Palace on July 25, 1969 was
of Anne Moore and not Pamela Courson. This has been debated for years.
Even Michael McClure claims on his website that the woman is Pamela.
However, Pamela never owned a pair of glasses, her hair at the time was
not that long and was thicker, she wouldn't be caught dead in that
ordinary outfit -- with her head down, and she'd never be walking ten
paces behind Jim Morrison! I'm sure someone reading this post can
clear this up.

AM

I'd bet a year's salary that is not Pamela Courson.
mizscarlett43
2005-07-03 20:36:29 UTC
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Salli says it's Anne Moore, and since Salli knew Anne well, I'd tend to
believe her, wouldn't you?

Besides, take a good look at the photograph. Pam was a slim beauty. Is
that how you'd characterize the person pictured? I think pudgy and
plain are better fits, meself.

& btw, Anne was never Jim's lover. Babe's possibly, certainly not
Jim's. Anne was notorious in L.A. rock circles for claiming
relationships with men who didn't even know who she was.
b***@yahoo.com
2005-07-04 01:00:49 UTC
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I"m sorry byt this is a "SKANK-FREE ZONE" and trollops like you are not

permitted to flaunt your appalling lack of candor or decorum. here.
You are allowed to speak here but that does not give you the right to
troll for "Johns" on this thread.
You must curb your wanton urges to search for young boys so as to lure
them into your "Palour" with sordid tales of you and "The Lizzard King.

You are far too old for this kind of behavior, it's high time you
started to acting like all of the other sixty five year olds in the
home with you.


With Sympathy
b***@yahoo.com
2005-07-04 03:28:46 UTC
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Salli-Skank has about as much credibility as you do which is Zero.
Off you go back to your Crack-Whore corner.

Double YUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Dan
2005-07-04 03:41:54 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.com
Salli-Skank has about as much credibility as you do which is Zero.
Off you go back to your Crack-Whore corner.
Double YUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Maybe it's time for the cross-posters to take it back to the Doors
board, eh?
--
Dan
M***@hotmail.com
2005-07-04 03:46:44 UTC
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Dan, are you here to talkabout the Doors and Jim Morison? I need
someone to talk with about the Doors and Jim Morison. All anyone does
is argue, bitch, fight, write dirty filthy words, yell, scream. Is this
usual tactics for a chatroom? If so, my mother was right.

That is all I have to say right now.

Emily P.
Post by Dan
Post by b***@yahoo.com
Salli-Skank has about as much credibility as you do which is Zero.
Off you go back to your Crack-Whore corner.
Double YUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Maybe it's time for the cross-posters to take it back to the Doors
board, eh?
--
Dan
Dan
2005-07-04 03:49:32 UTC
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Post by M***@hotmail.com
Dan, are you here to talkabout the Doors and Jim Morison? I need
someone to talk with about the Doors and Jim Morison. All anyone does
is argue, bitch, fight, write dirty filthy words, yell, scream. Is this
usual tactics for a chatroom? If so, my mother was right.
No, I have never even been to the Doors board.

You are all cross-posting on the Springsteen board.
--
Dan
M***@hotmail.com
2005-07-04 03:52:02 UTC
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No, Dan, you are subscribed to Howard Stern AND YOU ARE ON THE DOORS
BOARD!!! Click on options to the right of your name and you'll see.
Post by Dan
Post by M***@hotmail.com
Dan, are you here to talkabout the Doors and Jim Morison? I need
someone to talk with about the Doors and Jim Morison. All anyone does
is argue, bitch, fight, write dirty filthy words, yell, scream. Is this
usual tactics for a chatroom? If so, my mother was right.
No, I have never even been to the Doors board.
You are all cross-posting on the Springsteen board.
--
Dan
M***@hotmail.com
2005-07-04 03:55:33 UTC
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Is this a computer virus? My mother warned me about those too.
Post by M***@hotmail.com
No, Dan, you are subscribed to Howard Stern AND YOU ARE ON THE DOORS
BOARD!!! Click on options to the right of your name and you'll see.
Post by Dan
Post by M***@hotmail.com
Dan, are you here to talkabout the Doors and Jim Morison? I need
someone to talk with about the Doors and Jim Morison. All anyone does
is argue, bitch, fight, write dirty filthy words, yell, scream. Is this
usual tactics for a chatroom? If so, my mother was right.
No, I have never even been to the Doors board.
You are all cross-posting on the Springsteen board.
--
Dan
Link
2005-07-04 06:48:36 UTC
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I miss DOLLY!!!
I want DOLLY!
I want my DOLLY!!! I want my DOLLY!!!
~Alice 10 ft tall kicking on the floor and shrieking in a most
unbecoming manner in a tantrum aimed at damn Cheshire Cat, that I am
dizzy from funny mirrors and substitutes...and holding my peace!
~~~missing the irreplaceable dulcet tones of my Darling Llama!

Sobbing quietly now....I get a bit psychotic at parties....
(in all the excitement, you know)--- what a day, what a day this has
been....
murmuring into the pillow...there's no place like Vag, there's no place
like Vag
Post by M***@hotmail.com
Is this a computer virus? My mother warned me about those too.
Post by M***@hotmail.com
No, Dan, you are subscribed to Howard Stern AND YOU ARE ON THE DOORS
BOARD!!! Click on options to the right of your name and you'll see.
Post by Dan
Post by M***@hotmail.com
Dan, are you here to talkabout the Doors and Jim Morison? I need
someone to talk with about the Doors and Jim Morison. All anyone does
is argue, bitch, fight, write dirty filthy words, yell, scream. Is this
usual tactics for a chatroom? If so, my mother was right.
No, I have never even been to the Doors board.
You are all cross-posting on the Springsteen board.
--
Dan
Hyacinth
2005-07-04 08:13:29 UTC
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Post by Link
I miss DOLLY!!!
I want DOLLY!
I want my DOLLY!!! I want my DOLLY!!!
~Alice 10 ft tall kicking on the floor and shrieking in a most
unbecoming manner in a tantrum aimed at damn Cheshire Cat, that I am
dizzy from funny mirrors and substitutes...and holding my peace!
~~~missing the irreplaceable dulcet tones of my Darling Llama!
Sobbing quietly now....I get a bit psychotic at parties....
(in all the excitement, you know)--- what a day, what a day this has
been....
murmuring into the pillow...there's no place like Vag, there's no place
like Vag
_______________________________________
Poor child, I'm afraid Vag has vaporized and become one with the air,
earth, wind and sun.

Do not murmur, do not weep,
She is not there, she does not sleep.

She's in a thousand winds that blow,
She is the softly falling snow.
She is the gentle showers of rain,
She is the fields of ripening grain.

She is in the morning hush,
She is in the graceful rush
Of beautiful birds in circling flight,
Vag is the starshine of the night.

She is in the flowers that bloom,
She is in a quiet room,
She is the birds that sing,
Vag is in each lovely thing.


With sympathy,

Hy-in-mourning-this-morning
Link
2005-07-04 08:26:31 UTC
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Post by Hyacinth
Post by Link
I miss DOLLY!!!
I want DOLLY!
I want my DOLLY!!! I want my DOLLY!!!
~Alice 10 ft tall kicking on the floor and shrieking in a most
unbecoming manner in a tantrum aimed at damn Cheshire Cat, that I am
dizzy from funny mirrors and substitutes...and holding my peace!
~~~missing the irreplaceable dulcet tones of my Darling Llama!
Sobbing quietly now....I get a bit psychotic at parties....
(in all the excitement, you know)--- what a day, what a day this has
been....
murmuring into the pillow...there's no place like Vag, there's no place
like Vag
_______________________________________
Poor child, I'm afraid Vag has vaporized and become one with the air,
earth, wind and sun.
Do not murmur, do not weep,
She is not there, she does not sleep.
She's in a thousand winds that blow,
She is the softly falling snow.
She is the gentle showers of rain,
She is the fields of ripening grain.
She is in the morning hush,
She is in the graceful rush
Of beautiful birds in circling flight,
Vag is the starshine of the night.
She is in the flowers that bloom,
She is in a quiet room,
She is the birds that sing,
Vag is in each lovely thing.
With sympathy,
Hy-in-mourning-this-morning
sigh............
Link
2005-07-04 08:42:13 UTC
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Do you recall by any chance.....an old movie that I can't find anywhere
anymore though I've sought it out.....called Lili (Hi Lili Hi Lili Hi
Lo?) with Leslie Caron and featuring the song by that name~"the song of
love is a sad song, Hi Lili, Hi Lili, Hi Lo...."~
I would love it if you did, for it haunted me since childhood, and has
been a subliminal "Magic Carpet" that has carried me through all
precious characters playing through my heart, that fade away and
eventually melt into the Face of God weilding the "masks" that
accompany, provoke, and propel my sojourn en route back to His Arms.
(it's the 3rd and probably greatest of my iconic movies of Divine
Romance listed today/yesterday)....I hope you've seen it because it
would save a lot of explanation!

I will dub thee Hi Lili.........
Link
2005-07-04 08:58:53 UTC
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Post by Link
Do you recall by any chance.....an old movie that I can't find anywhere
anymore though I've sought it out.....called Lili (Hi Lili Hi Lili Hi
Lo?) with Leslie Caron and featuring the song by that name~"the song of
love is a sad song, Hi Lili, Hi Lili, Hi Lo...."~
I would love it if you did, for it haunted me since childhood, and has
been a subliminal "Magic Carpet" that has carried me through all
precious characters playing through my heart, that fade away and
eventually melt into the Face of God weilding the "masks" that
accompany, provoke, and propel my sojourn en route back to His Arms.
(it's the 3rd and probably greatest of my iconic movies of Divine
Romance listed today/yesterday)....I hope you've seen it because it
would save a lot of explanation!
I will dub thee Hi Lili.........
PLOT SYNOPSIS

"Based on a Paul Gallico story, the film unfolds in the bright
atmosphere of a traveling French carnival. Here Lili (Leslie Caron)
becomes a waitress, but she is fired after one night - for spending too
much time watching Jean Pierre Aumont, the handsome magician with whom
she is infatuated. Lili is grief-stricken until a lame pupeteer (Mel
Ferrer) uses his little friends to woo her from her sorrow. Soon she is
part of his act, childishly happy with the four puppets, but unable to
deal with their moody master, whom she calls "the angry man." "
- Liner Notes from Turner/MGM/UA Videotape


NOTES

"It is not often that the word 'enchanting' can accurately be applied
to a musical, but it was the best way to describe Lili, as well as
Leslie Caron's genuinely touching performance in it."
- Clive Hirschhorn, The Hollywood Musical

"A lovely and beguiling little film, touched with the magic of romance,
the shimmer of masquerade."
- Bosley Crowther, The New York Times
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 19:22:50 UTC
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Post by Link
I miss DOLLY!!!
I want DOLLY!
I want my DOLLY!!! I want my DOLLY!!!
~Alice 10 ft tall kicking on the floor and shrieking in a most
unbecoming manner in a tantrum aimed at damn Cheshire Cat, that I am
dizzy from funny mirrors and substitutes...and holding my peace!
~~~missing the irreplaceable dulcet tones of my Darling Llama!
Sobbing quietly now....I get a bit psychotic at parties....
(in all the excitement, you know)--- what a day, what a day this has
been....
murmuring into the pillow...there's no place like Vag, there's no place
like Vag
Heehee, Link, a fit? It may well be later than sooner, I regret fully to
report. I did try to forward part of a correspondence and a picture to
you of her, do not know if I have the correct e-mail address or not.
--
Tom
Dan
2005-07-04 04:01:02 UTC
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Post by M***@hotmail.com
No, Dan, you are subscribed to Howard Stern AND YOU ARE ON THE DOORS
BOARD!!! Click on options to the right of your name and you'll see.
I've NEVER been on the Stern board or the Doors board.
--
Dan
b***@yahoo.com
2005-07-04 04:05:04 UTC
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Then you can go over to the Doors "Official Site, and play with all of
the other inmates in "The Cuckoos Nest"
and you can sing and dance untill your heart's content, to the music of
"The Medication Waltz"


"Send my credentials to the house of detention.
I've got some frieeeeeeeeeeends inside."
Hyacinth
2005-07-04 04:27:50 UTC
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You mean... no, you can't... please, please... no... that is not Jim's
ghost I see dancing on the graves? NO!!! I can't stand it. No,
no....!!!
----------------
Hy-whose-afraid-to-die-and-not-come-back-as-a-ghost-to-haunt-you
Post by b***@yahoo.com
Then you can go over to the Doors "Official Site, and play with all of
the other inmates in "The Cuckoos Nest"
and you can sing and dance untill your heart's content, to the music of
"The Medication Waltz"
"Send my credentials to the house of detention.
I've got some frieeeeeeeeeeends inside."
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 19:03:10 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.com
Salli-Skank has about as much credibility as you do which is Zero.
Off you go back to your Crack-Whore corner.
Double YUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Alan, I understand that it is part of your compulsion to see everything as
either black or white, friend or foe, pugilist/pacifist but I found Salli
to be very credible. It will surprise you to know that she bears no great
grievance to you except for the various mistatements and untruths you
attributed to here on the Lounge. Light switch propositions (thanks for
that one, V) are for those only capable of extremes in nature.
--
Tom
Alric Knebel
2005-07-06 05:27:51 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by b***@yahoo.com
Salli-Skank has about as much credibility as you do which is Zero.
Off you go back to your Crack-Whore corner.
Double YUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Alan, I understand that it is part of your compulsion to see everything as
either black or white, friend or foe, pugilist/pacifist but I found Salli
to be very credible. It will surprise you to know that she bears no great
grievance to you except for the various mistatements and untruths you
attributed to here on the Lounge. Light switch propositions (thanks for
that one, V) are for those only capable of extremes in nature.
Yeah, "light switch propositions." Leave it to Vag to say nearly
nothing in a big way.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
Patricia
2005-07-07 19:39:15 UTC
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Post by mizscarlett43
Salli says it's Anne Moore, and since Salli knew Anne well, I'd tend to
believe her, wouldn't you?
Besides, take a good look at the photograph. Pam was a slim beauty. Is
that how you'd characterize the person pictured? I think pudgy and
plain are better fits, meself.
& btw, Anne was never Jim's lover. Babe's possibly, certainly not
Jim's. Anne was notorious in L.A. rock circles for claiming
relationships with men who didn't even know who she was.
Anne was Jim's lover, though not in a serious way. She was never
Babe's lover. Salli shouldn't say anything about women inflating their
importance in other people's lives.
majcm
2005-07-04 04:42:25 UTC
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Can someone post a link to this picture/video you are talking about?
Thanks
Post by AnnieM
Post by Brett
That photo of Jim lugging around his giant beers with Pam and McClure
was from The Cow Palace.
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy. I suggest you
http://www.biographychannel.com/global/listings/series_showcase.jsp?EGrpType=Series&Id=15172888&NetwCode=BIO
Post by AnnieM
Post by Brett
Brett
Thank you, Brett, for posting the Biography channel link. I'll
definitely be tuning in.
I'm very sure the picture taken at the Cow Palace on July 25, 1969 was
of Anne Moore and not Pamela Courson. This has been debated for years.
Even Michael McClure claims on his website that the woman is Pamela.
However, Pamela never owned a pair of glasses, her hair at the time was
not that long and was thicker, she wouldn't be caught dead in that
ordinary outfit -- with her head down, and she'd never be walking ten
paces behind Jim Morrison! I'm sure someone reading this post can
clear this up.
AM
I'd bet a year's salary that is not Pamela Courson.
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 19:24:23 UTC
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http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Post by majcm
Can someone post a link to this picture/video you are talking about?
Thanks
Post by AnnieM
Post by Brett
That photo of Jim lugging around his giant beers with Pam and McClure
was from The Cow Palace.
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy. I suggest you
http://www.biographychannel.com/global/listings/series_showcase.jsp?EGrpType=Series&Id=15172888&NetwCode=BIO
Post by AnnieM
Post by Brett
Brett
Thank you, Brett, for posting the Biography channel link. I'll
definitely be tuning in.
I'm very sure the picture taken at the Cow Palace on July 25, 1969 was
of Anne Moore and not Pamela Courson. This has been debated for years.
Even Michael McClure claims on his website that the woman is Pamela.
However, Pamela never owned a pair of glasses, her hair at the time was
not that long and was thicker, she wouldn't be caught dead in that
ordinary outfit -- with her head down, and she'd never be walking ten
paces behind Jim Morrison! I'm sure someone reading this post can
clear this up.
AM
I'd bet a year's salary that is not Pamela Courson.
--
Tom
FourDirections
2005-07-03 22:33:42 UTC
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Post by Brett
That photo of Jim lugging around his giant beers with Pam and McClure
was from The Cow Palace.
As for the ghost photo, I will be a special guest on the Biography
channel on Tuesday as we look at the Morrison legacy. I suggest you
http://www.biographychannel.com/global/listings/series_showcase.jsp?EGrpType=Series&Id=15172888&NetwCode=BIO
Brett
Thanks for the heads up on this Brett. I will be very interested in
watching it.
M***@hotmail.com
2005-07-04 03:54:02 UTC
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Post by Black Star
Brett,
thx for the gread video and picture of Jim with the beer. Real rare
stuff for me. Where did you get the picture from? I am collecting Doors
Stuff for years now, that picture was completely new to me.
As far as the grave appearance is concerned.......mmmh....nice collage.
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
Peace Out,
Brett
Bruce Coryell
2005-07-04 11:21:25 UTC
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Post by Black Star
Brett,
thx for the gread video and picture of Jim with the beer. Real rare
stuff for me. Where did you get the picture from? I am collecting Doors
Stuff for years now, that picture was completely new to me.
As far as the grave appearance is concerned.......mmmh....nice collage.
So, did Joel Brodsky show up to photograph the ghost?
Shufro
2005-07-04 01:21:16 UTC
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"Brett" <> Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
Talk about total bullshit. Two faded white dots that are probably chalk
marks on a tombstone about 300 feet behind JM's grave. The so-called Ghost
must have been served with a Restraining Order. Maybe it is the Ghost of
somebody else, since it is so far away.
Hyacinth
2005-07-04 04:59:22 UTC
Permalink
On the contrary, the photo shows a ghostly Jim Morrison dancing away
dressed exactly as he did in Bakersfield in 1968. Clearly. This is
the only time in history that a near-perfect image has been recorded
for us to hand down to our grandchildren and their grandchildren. Of
course, the first time was Jim Morrison, who else could it be?

Kudos, Brett, kudos.

Hy-the-believer
Post by Shufro
"Brett" <> Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
Talk about total bullshit. Two faded white dots that are probably chalk
marks on a tombstone about 300 feet behind JM's grave. The so-called Ghost
must have been served with a Restraining Order. Maybe it is the Ghost of
somebody else, since it is so far away.
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 19:42:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Hyacinth
On the contrary, the photo shows a ghostly Jim Morrison dancing away
dressed exactly as he did in Bakersfield in 1968. Clearly. This is
the only time in history that a near-perfect image has been recorded
for us to hand down to our grandchildren and their grandchildren. Of
course, the first time was Jim Morrison, who else could it be?
Kudos, Brett, kudos.
Hy-the-believer
Post by Shufro
"Brett" <> Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
Talk about total bullshit. Two faded white dots that are probably chalk
marks on a tombstone about 300 feet behind JM's grave. The so-called Ghost
must have been served with a Restraining Order. Maybe it is the Ghost of
somebody else, since it is so far away.
Cinth, be careful with Mr. Meisner and applying words such as "clearly" and
believable to his shtick.
--
Tom
Dan
2005-07-05 19:54:47 UTC
Permalink
Aww man--the lizard people are back again...

Cross-posting sucks.
--
Dan


"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 20:31:18 UTC
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Post by Dan
Aww man--the lizard people are back again...
Cross-posting sucks.
I do have to laugh as you embrace it.
--
Tom
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-05 19:34:01 UTC
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Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
Peace Out,
Brett
Thank you, Mr. Meisner. Do you actually believe that Jim is alive and
well?
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 05:52:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.

--
Shadowville/Netherlands project:
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm

"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
Bob
2005-07-06 06:06:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
--
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
Went through years of touring and abusing his body,and in the end it was
the bath tub that finally got him.
--
-Bob


Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me

-Gnr

All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place

-The Doors
Johnny Fairview
2005-07-06 06:26:39 UTC
Permalink
i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
Bob
2005-07-06 06:40:57 UTC
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Post by Johnny Fairview
i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
Mine to....except he was in a car at the Jr. Highschool and he was shot...
--
-Bob


Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me

-Gnr

All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place

-The Doors
smithmick
2005-07-06 09:51:40 UTC
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Post by Bob
Post by Johnny Fairview
i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
Mine to....except he was in a car at the Jr. Highschool and he was shot...
LOL...10 years ago I was doing a fibreglass job for a waterpark...the
pool manager got suspicious of a guy parked outside watching the
children frolic in the kiddy pool. When he surprised him from behind,
this cat leapt out of the mans vehicle, leaving a very embarrassed man
with shit on his still hard penis.....not having a gun, he quickly
took the mans car keys & called the police.


Here I am now, entertain me : P
Bob
2005-07-06 20:07:29 UTC
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Post by smithmick
Post by Bob
Post by Johnny Fairview
i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
Mine to....except he was in a car at the Jr. Highschool and he was shot...
LOL...10 years ago I was doing a fibreglass job for a waterpark...the
pool manager got suspicious of a guy parked outside watching the
children frolic in the kiddy pool. When he surprised him from behind,
this cat leapt out of the mans vehicle, leaving a very embarrassed man
with shit on his still hard penis.....not having a gun, he quickly
took the mans car keys & called the police.
Here I am now, entertain me : P
Is cat fucking illeagle there?
--
-Bob


Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me

-Gnr

All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place

-The Doors
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 06:41:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
Went through years of touring and abusing his body,and in the end it was
the bath tub that finally got him.
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.

--
"Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke." -Keith Richards

"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
<http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.
mp3>

"Black Eagle Lady" [Will Dockery & Henry Conley]
http://www.lulu.com/items/84000/84578/1/preview/Henry_Conley_-_06_-_Black_Eagle_Lady.mp3
Post by Bob
Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me
-Gnr
All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place
-The Doors
Bob
2005-07-06 07:21:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Bob
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
Went through years of touring and abusing his body,and in the end it was
the bath tub that finally got him.
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
And don't forget speedballs!
--
-Bob


Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me

-Gnr

All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place

-The Doors
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-06 18:46:32 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 19:05:10 UTC
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"Thomas Giarmo"
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.

Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop:

----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including Houstman
and Barbie Catshit thought so:

<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>

And JAV's poetry/parody style is remarkably similar to yours:

----
From: Jane Asher's Vagina (***@Vaginas.net)
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST

spectacle
---------

renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,

I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes

I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me

we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend

I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike

Why?

but(t) fuckened her husband

so I guess I win.

Vicki

Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----

A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
--
Shadowville/Netherlands project:
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm

"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-06 19:41:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo"
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including Houstman
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will, these
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number of
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms. Vagina
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think, I
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.

Will, I have never met her but the archives show that you have or were to.
This is highly unusual, very out-of-character, there had to be reason.
Can you engage?
--
Tom
Alric Knebel
2005-07-06 19:46:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo"
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including Houstman
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will, these
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number of
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms. Vagina
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think, I
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon_07062005.html
_______________________________________________
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 20:12:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including Houstman
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will, these
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number of
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms. Vagina
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think, I
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>

Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
<http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
Dale Houstman
2005-07-06 20:33:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.

dmh
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-06 20:57:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
God, you sound like Alric Knebel!! Words without true meaning, Face With
No Eyes!!
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 20:58:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
God, you sound like Alric Knebel!! Words without true meaning, Face With
No Eyes!!
Dale's /surreal/.
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>

Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
<http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
Alric Knebel
2005-07-06 21:19:42 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
God, you sound like Alric Knebel!! Words without true meaning, Face With
No Eyes!!
Damn, that was stupid, even for YOU.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon_07062005.html
_______________________________________________
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 20:56:51 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
This from the fellow that owns the Bishop-in-bondage photo
collection... heh.

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j r sherman
2005-07-06 22:02:04 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Will Dockery
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
now THAT'S poetry!!! :D

love and kisses,

j r sherman
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Dale Houstman
2005-07-07 02:09:28 UTC
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Post by j r sherman
Post by Dale Houstman
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
love and kisses,
j r sherman
Now let's see if Will will put it to "music" and perform it at the next
Festival of Stumblers.

dmh
Dennis M. Hammes
2005-07-07 08:25:23 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
Post by j r sherman
Post by Dale Houstman
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait,
as long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is
begging for it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or
not the moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom?
Tom's a skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling
infested skank hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their
stinknest when you wandered off the road into the first rest home
that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
Heh.
Two "hehs" up, even.
Post by Dale Houstman
Post by j r sherman
now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
love and kisses,
j r sherman
Now let's see if Will will put it to "music" and perform it at the next
Festival of Stumblers.
dmh
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is that nothing changes. -- Herakleitos
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Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-06 20:56:18 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song
and a
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption
among
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including
Houstman
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will,
these
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number
of
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms.
Vagina
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think,
I
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
Yes, Knebel is bouncing all over the place, half-day ago Emily Post was the
Vagina according to him. Knebel is a stunted version of the one man
kabal, Will, he is man scorned and turned away by TLV, she teased him and
he pricked right up. Ask V, Knebel has his own relatives in the cahoots
and I think he doesn't know it. She does.
--
Tom
Alric Knebel
2005-07-06 21:18:00 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song
and a
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption
among
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including
Houstman
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will,
these
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number
of
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms.
Vagina
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think,
I
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
Yes, Knebel is bouncing all over the place, half-day ago Emily Post was the
Vagina according to him. Knebel is a stunted version of the one man
kabal, Will, he is man scorned and turned away by TLV, she teased him and
he pricked right up. Ask V, Knebel has his own relatives in the cahoots
and I think he doesn't know it. She does.
Now, Will, to read this, you'll have to get the December 1957 edition of
Life magazine, and on page 22, there's a number imbedded on the Lucky
Strike pack. It'll tell you how many letters are actually relevant in
that post. If you flip forward the same number of pages, you'll see
another number imbedded in the folds of the woman's dress. It'll tell
you how many spaces to count between the letters in the message. Those
are the relevant letters. You unscramble them for the message. She's
probably telling you what Alice Cooper's real name is, and the part he
played in Joplin's -- Scott Joplin; not Janis -- death.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon_07062005.html
_______________________________________________
Alric Knebel
2005-07-06 21:05:37 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song
and a
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption
among
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including
Houstman
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will,
these
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number
of
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms.
Vagina
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think,
I
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
If I tell you, we'll make you take acid and kill Castro.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon_07062005.html
_______________________________________________
Will Dockery
2005-07-06 21:06:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song
and a lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption
among
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
----
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Don't think it is me, no.
I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
I assume BL, DHS etc..
They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including
<http://tinyurl.com/bdt7g>
----
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
----
A similar situation I note is now happening in the Doors newsgroup...
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will,
these people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao
Mercenary
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number of
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms.
Vagina
Post by Alric Knebel
Post by Thomas Giarmo
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think, I
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
If I tell you, we'll make you take acid and kill Castro.
If ya'll dose me, I'd hate to waste the trip on whacking some guy with a
cool beard.
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Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
<http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
Joy Twitcuntry
2005-07-06 20:11:01 UTC
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"Thomas Giarmo" <***@nomail.com> wrote in message news:44py57daqfm2.9ofx5oap18vh$***@40tude.net...
<>
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.

I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.

JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.

I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.

<plonk>
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 06:31:20 UTC
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Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<>
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.

You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<plonk>
The sound of a leaking killfile.

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Dan
2005-07-07 06:38:07 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<>
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<plonk>
The sound of a leaking killfile.
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Can the people in this thread PLEASE stop cross-posting every comment to
rec.music.artists.springsteen?????
--
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"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 07:46:44 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Will, you aren't interested in my understanding of poetry,
Actually, I'm very interested. In fact, I've used what I learned from
you by studying the rewrite process you went through on "Skirt Of
Printed Sunflowers" with "Pastel Hollarings" for the newly rewritten
poem "Pastel Mythology", which just went into print yesterday in PGMag
<http://www.playgroundsmag.com> the local "arts" monthly here in
Shadowville. The first of my new poems I consider /ready/.

In addition, I learned from your poem "Spring", through the exchange
between you and Dale Houstman recently, where he took /that/ poem and
rewrote it as "Milk Cannisters" or somesuch. That, and his masterful
"Her Lark Colony" has been useful to study in working with the poem
"Scorpioman In Trashcanland", which I hope to have ready by the August
issue.

This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
/real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
and
to have you in my browser means letting in BC, jr, Dale, peewee, 'ennis, etc...
(which is most of your traffic.) I'll have to pass.
If you could killfile more of them, perhaps.
BC and Boss I can almost always ignore, JRS I like to spar with, and
there's too much left to learn from Uncle Dennis and Cousin Dale... you
can always have a look from time to time when you're slumming in
Google, and give me a shout out if the need arises... stuff 'em Tom.
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Houstman is a baby.
Dale's mild mannered poet turned Hasty Pudding by the preassures of
non-stop cabal slurping.
Post by Will Dockery
The sound of a leaking killfile.
There are lots of people that I never talk to again.
Cute kitties... I showed 'em to Orson and Dingy.

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ggamble
2005-07-07 13:52:19 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
/real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
American Description
Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of
the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others
to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 17:55:43 UTC
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Post by ggamble
True, Uncle Dennis, a bigger question is if it's the Will Dockery of
the movie or the dream in the mirror, or the other Will Dockery that's
reflected into my art and doubled back here?
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
American Description
Diagnostic Criteria
Did you write this yourself, or did you borrow it? If you /did/ borrow it,
you should give a credit and/or a link, y'know... if you /did/ write it,
though... pretty good!
Post by ggamble
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior),
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life. I like things done on a grand,
sweeping scale, and admire others with these leanings. That's why guys like
you that don't seem to do much of anything bore me, at best. This is the
best thing you've done since I first encountered you, Gamble... too bad you
probably didn't even write it.
Post by ggamble
need for admiration,
I can't say I have a particular /need/ for admiration, though, no more than
any other human, at least. I do have a /need/ to create my work, and never
work in a vacume... I don't feel a poem, or any other work of art is
/complete/ until it's put out into public for an audience. Obviously, if I
had a /need/ for "admiration", I'd have blown this scene long ago for some
group of back patter type. I enjoy a good fight, and more often than not
your gang provides this... in spades.
Post by ggamble
and lack of empathy,
Can't agree with this one, much... I'm quite the empath, as reflected in
many of my songs and poems.
Post by ggamble
beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents,
I'm confident in my powers as an artist, and certainly the creation of these
works thrills me to no end, and, yeah, I've been known to work my own
publicity campaigns and can play the Funky Flashman when the need arises,
something I picked up at least as early as my childhood readings of Marvel
Comix, as well as movie and rock music advertisments, interviews, et cetera.
That's me, and I'll easily go with this one.
Post by ggamble
expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
achievements)
Here, it flows away from being an accurate description of "Will Dockery", as
my achievements are legion in art music and poetry, as well as comedy,
performance art, and many other areas... and the fact is that I /am/
superior to the gaggle of jeering, do-nothing, no talent hecklers on the
poetry newsgroups, many of which don't even /write poetry/.

I've got the goods... sorry if that hurts your collective feelings.
Post by ggamble
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
None of these apply to me... I work a simple job for some cash to live on,
not that interested in "power", as I've got enough to get what I need done,
"I held beauty on my knee and found her bitter", thus love is not
particularly interesting to me, these days... which has influenced the newer
poetry in a positive direction: less soap-opera-confessional-navel-gazing
work in the upcoming works in progress.
Post by ggamble
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
Heh! Well that's the facts, Jack! My art /is/ completely original, as the
arguments with my groupie on this very thread yesterday made clear. I'm the
best at what I /do/, which is being "Will Dockery", and every move I make is
performance art... got a problem with that? Well that ain't /my/ problem.
Post by ggamble
and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)
This is not me, as anyone that knows me either here on Usenet /or/ real life
can easily see. As JRS is so fond of pointing out endlessly: I'm a man of
very simple tastes, and like it that way.
Post by ggamble
4. requires excessive admiration
I can't say I have a particular /need/ for admiration, though, no more than
any other human, at least. I do have a /need/ to create my work, and never
work in a vacume... I don't feel a poem, or any other work of art is
/complete/ until it's put out into public for an audience. Obviously, if I
had a /need/ for "admiration", I'd have blown this scene long ago for some
group of back patter type. I enjoy a good fight, and more often than not
your gang provides this... in spades.
Post by ggamble
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations
Not at all. I do what I do, and the audience can take it or leave it... the
bottom line is that I create the art for /myself/ first, and if /I/ like it,
out it goes... to the public.

I make the art that works, and will continue to until I drop.
Post by ggamble
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others
to achieve his or her own ends
I'm a "people person", and it takes people sometimes to make certain things
/happen/... but I don't "exploit" anything except talent, from which
everyone wins in the end. For example, collaborating with musicians, et
cetera.
Post by ggamble
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others
Can't agree with this one, much... I'm quite the empath, as reflected in
many of my songs and poems.
Post by ggamble
8. is often envious of others
Never. I'm content with my work and encourage everyone to create. In fact
I'm often disgusted with the agenda of others on the poetry newsgroups to
try to drive away newcomers, and to stifle the creativity of the other
poets, notably in my case, for example.
Post by ggamble
or believes that others are envious of him or her
Heh. Have to admit that I /do/ see a bit of /that/ from time-to-time... it
could even be speculated that this very post by Gary Gamble is an example of
that, since he's a burned out gasfly that hasn't actually written, or at
least /posted/ a poem in these parts in a very long time. In fact, as I
wrote earlier, this post [which he may not have even written] is the most
I've /ever/ seen the boy do.
Post by ggamble
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Arrogant, Hell yes. Haughty? Never in my life.

Good show, Gamble... got more? How about an actual poem now?

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j r sherman
2005-07-07 19:12:59 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?

why should anyone aspire to that?
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Will Dockery
2005-07-07 19:42:19 UTC
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Will Dockery says...
Post by Will Dockery
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
why should anyone aspire to that?
Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?

I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether you
like my art or not isn't my problem.

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j r sherman
2005-07-07 21:22:23 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Will Dockery says...
Post by Will Dockery
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
why should anyone aspire to that?
Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project. the shit you
produce now isn't ANY different than the shit you produced seven years ago.
Post by Will Dockery
I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether you
like my art or not isn't my problem.
i never said it was. but you've spent a lot of time today telling all of us how
good you are.

i want to know why you think what you do is any good? who besides you thinks
what you do is any good?

it's not a difficult question.
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And his hair was perfect."
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Will Dockery
2005-07-07 21:53:32 UTC
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Will Dockery says...
Post by Will Dockery
Post by j r sherman
Post by Will Dockery
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
why should anyone aspire to that?
Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
That's up to the artist, JRS.

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<http://tinyurl.com/7on5h>
j r sherman
2005-07-07 22:18:10 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Will Dockery says...
Post by Will Dockery
Post by j r sherman
Post by Will Dockery
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
why should anyone aspire to that?
Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
That's up to the artist, JRS.
and that's why you suck, dockery. that's why everything you do is shit. every
song, every poem, every time you stagger around on a stage looking like an
idiotic buffoon, in everything you do, it's complete shit. and now we know why.

to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the fucking point
of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try harder each time? how
much more lazy can you get?

what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are. you're just using up oxygen
humans could be using. killing yourself would be doing humanity a service.
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samvaknin
2005-07-07 20:15:51 UTC
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Hi,

A more detailed view:

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/1.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/npdglance.html

Take care.

Sam
Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
/real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
American Description
Diagnostic Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others
to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 18:10:58 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<>
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<plonk>
The sound of a leaking killfile.
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 18:20:25 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<>
Post by Will Dockery
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
Post by Will Dockery
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Post by Joy Twitcuntry
<plonk>
The sound of a leaking killfile.
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.

Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
of the ultimate Poets of the People.

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Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 18:44:06 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
of the ultimate Poets of the People.
Can't stop them, Will, as The Loverly Vagina says "fucken kiddies must have
their funsies", it's what defines them as infantile :0)

Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything but
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real ones
:)

I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
--
Tom
j r sherman
2005-07-07 19:10:10 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
of the ultimate Poets of the People.
Can't stop them, Will, as The Loverly Vagina says "fucken kiddies must have
their funsies", it's what defines them as infantile :0)
Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything but
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real ones
:)
I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
tom, are you also from the south?
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Will Dockery
2005-07-07 19:32:08 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
of the ultimate Poets of the People.
Can't stop them, Will, as The Loverly Vagina says "fucken kiddies must have
their funsies", it's what defines them as infantile :0)
Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything but
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real ones
:)
Tell me about it, pal! They're /livid/ when a real one's present, or
remembered.
Post by Thomas Giarmo
I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
Not familiar with the events... what happened?

That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.

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Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 20:26:15 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything
but
Post by Thomas Giarmo
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real
ones
Post by Thomas Giarmo
:)
Tell me about it, pal! They're /livid/ when a real one's present, or
remembered.
Post by Thomas Giarmo
I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
Not familiar with the events... what happened?
That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
http://tinyurl.com/ay53p

No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
Atlanta MRSA
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 20:51:12 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything
but
Post by Thomas Giarmo
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real
ones
Post by Thomas Giarmo
:)
Tell me about it, pal! They're /livid/ when a real one's present, or
remembered.
Post by Thomas Giarmo
I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
Not familiar with the events... what happened?
That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
http://tinyurl.com/ay53p
No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
Atlanta MRSA
Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in Henry
County?

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Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 22:30:32 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Not familiar with the events... what happened?
That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
http://tinyurl.com/ay53p
No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
Atlanta MRSA
Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in Henry
County?
Some death, millions, maybe billions in damage. You down in Columbus?
--
Tom
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 22:36:04 UTC
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Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Thomas Giarmo
Post by Will Dockery
Not familiar with the events... what happened?
That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
http://tinyurl.com/ay53p
No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
Atlanta MRSA
Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in Henry
County?
Some death, millions, maybe billions in damage.
Damn. When?
Post by Thomas Giarmo
You down in Columbus?
Yeah.

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Hyacinth H
2005-07-07 20:29:47 UTC
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Will - Do you have a favorite Jim Morrison poem? I've always been
drawn to 'As I Look Back.' It very nearly brings tears to my eyes and
a pall over my being. Jim sounds at his most vulnerable.

Hyacinth
Will Dockery
2005-07-07 20:41:24 UTC
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Post by Hyacinth H
Will - Do you have a favorite Jim Morrison poem? I've always been
drawn to 'As I Look Back.' It very nearly brings tears to my eyes and
a pall over my being. Jim sounds at his most vulnerable.
If I had to pick a favorite, it'd probably be some of the stuff from
American Prayer, which i haven't heard in years but still rattles with
power:

----
AWAKE

Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity
First thing you see.

A vast radiant beach in a cool jeweled moon
Couples naked race down by it's quiet side
And we laugh like soft, mad children
Smug in the wooly cotton brains of infancy
The music and voices are all around us.
Choose they croon the Ancient Ones
The time has come again
Choose now, they croon
Beneath the moon
Beside an ancient lake
Enter again the sweet forest
Enter the hot dream
Come with us
Everything is broken up and dances.

Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.

DAWN'S HIGHWAY

Me and my -ah- mother and father - and a
grandmother and a grandfather - were driving through
the desert, at dawn, and a truck load of Indian
workers had either hit another car, or just - I don't
know what happened - but there were Indians scattered
all over the highway, bleeding to death.

So the car pulls up and stops. That was the first time
I tasted fear. I musta' been about four - like a child is
like a flower, his head is just floating in the
breeze, man.
The reaction I get now thinking about it, looking
back - is that the souls of the ghosts of those dead
Indians...maybe one or two of 'em...were just
running around freaking out, and just leaped into my
soul. And they're still in there.

DAWN'S HIGHWAY & NEWBORN AWAKENING

DAWN'S HIGHWAY

Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.

Blood in the streets in the town of New Haven
Blood stains the roofs and the palm trees of Venice
Blood in my love in the terrible summer
Bloody red sun of Phantastic L.A.

Blood screams her brain as they chop off her fingers
Blood will be born in the birth if a nation
Blood is the rose of mysterious union
Blood on the rise, it's following me.

Indian, Indian what did you die for?
Indian says, nothing at all.

-Jim Morrison
----

The one about "tight lipped little losers", is hilarious, JDM covers all the
bases...

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Johnny Fairview
2005-07-07 04:11:59 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
you know, you're right. im not gonna stop masturbating. i guess i
oughtta stop doing it while bathing in airplanes though. that just
seems to be inviting too much irony my way
Wyle Coyote
2005-07-06 20:38:27 UTC
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Post by Brett
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Lol! I am no major J.M. fan, but I love this photo the best!!!

"F" the papparazzi!!! RIGHT ON!
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Dan
2005-07-06 21:37:31 UTC
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Come on guys--can't you please stop crossposting to the Springsteen group?
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Dan


"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"
Thomas Jefferson
Patricia
2005-07-07 19:32:52 UTC
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Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
So in honor of Jim's passing, you decided to pass on a little more
misinformation -- for a change?

I can't view this movie you're touting as Jim's first, but I'm sure
it's bullshit, based on everything else you've ever posted. As for the
"rare photo of Jim and Pam," that isn't Pam in the photo, as you've
been told many times; that's Anne Moore. And the "Last photo taken of
Jim Morrison hours before his death" was actually taken WEEKS before
Jim's death, during a trip to Corsica. As for the bullshit ghost
photo, well, you've been laughed at over that flimsy fraud all over
usenet long before you stupidly posted it here.
Post by Brett
Jim's first movie...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
Peace Out,
Brett
Hyacinth H
2005-07-07 20:38:21 UTC
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Post by Patricia
Post by Brett
In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
rare gems from Jim's life...
So in honor of Jim's passing, you decided to pass on a little more
misinformation -- for a change?
I can't view this movie you're touting as Jim's first, but I'm sure
it's bullshit, based on everything else you've ever posted. As for the
"rare photo of Jim and Pam," that isn't Pam in the photo, as you've
been told many times; that's Anne Moore. And the "Last photo taken of
Jim Morrison hours before his death" was actually taken WEEKS before
Jim's death, during a trip to Corsica. As for the bullshit ghost
photo, well, you've been laughed at over that flimsy fraud all over
usenet long before you stupidly posted it here.
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Most Doors fans I've met know that Patricia speaks the truth. Someone
as gung-ho over Morrison as Brett Meisner should also know what has
been posted above is correct. Yet he perpetuates this "ghost of Jim
Morrison" photograph all over the place, continually misidentifies the
July 25, 1969 photo as Pamela when it was Anne Moore, and hawks the
"last photo taken before Jim's death" when it was snapped in Corsica
several months before. Brett has turned Morrison into an X-Files
character instead of letting Jim's soul rest in peace by enjoying Jim's
lyrics, music and poems. No more rumours, Brett. You and Ranier need
to get it right or move on to another dead rock star you can exploit.

Hy
Thomas Giarmo
2005-07-07 19:45:34 UTC
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Post by Brett
Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
Hey, Brett, how did Jim get from Corsica to Paris in "hours the day before
his death" whatever that means? Looks like you are a fraud and a pretty
ignorant one at that. Even the DJs thought you were an idiot.
--
Tom
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